Ok....I did away with a thread.

[Dirty LJ]

I did this because this forum was never intended to be a high school mud slinging drama fest. If you have a problem with a person this is not the place to air it. I am hearing from long time members that while we all voted for no censorship it is getting a bit out of hand. We need to self censor ourselves. There is Brads Playground (The Infected room) for all the crude humor, lets tone it down in the open forum. We want to attract new members from all over and from all walks of life.

If you guys disagree and think I am out of line let me know. I can bring the thread.

What do you guys think?

[Mickey]

I agree... Brad needs a chain cause he keeps getting loose from his playground... Lol oh and a muzzle when he is taken on walks... Lol

[abendx]

Disagree... and you do what you want.

What was accomplished with this is that the facts were deleted and the bashing of a new Jeeper stood.... under the guise of IOR.

Not for me. I don't condone those actions. Bad for the club, bad for Jeepers, bad for human beings in general.

Sad day for IOR. Censorship sucks.

[Desert Dog]

Listen, this club has ex-cops and ex-cons, gays and straights, loyal husbands and outright playerz, church ministers and church haters, rich folks and folks barely scraping by doing whatever they can, conformists and anarchists, and just about every slice of human pie you could imagine. What people do in their personal lives is nobody's business period, especially not mine or this club's. You don't like Lorie, thats cool and you have every right not to. Lots of folks are not very pleased with you either, but are not doing background checks on you and posting it, partly because its none of their business and partly because they really don't care.

If you don't like someone, don't wheel with them. There are folks that don't wheel with me because they think I am too vulgar. Do I give a shit...ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE BIT! And if they needed my help, Id be there for them in a heartbeat.

I love wheeling with you B-rad. I also thought that Lorenzo and Lorie were pretty cool when I met them. I don't really care what they do in there personal life - if I judged folks like that I would have no friends or family.

[abendx]

Well... we disagree. She laid the new guy out and it looked to anyone that didn't know that she was representative of the clubs ethos.

If that is the case... and her treatment of XJRGUY is indicative of the club's new attitude, I'm done.

Condoning the actions of someone that fails on every level of what the club is all about (or my impression of the club) is wrong. By deleting the post that set the record straight, that is what was accomplished.

I am rude and crude. I care little of what others think of that. What is do value is my integrity and that of those I surround myself with. No one that knows me could ever refute that... just as Vicki pointed out.

She was spreading lies and in the process attempted to take down the club (she reportedly did the same basic action at CI from what I have been told... and her exit strategy was similar) . You might think that sounds grandiose, but a post like she made to XJRGUY would certainly drive anyone new away... and possibly old ones too.

Say what you want about me... I don't personally attack anyone (with this exception., that was completely asked for and deserved), I just have an odd sense of humor that apparently many of you share.

The whole thing looks to be one person's attempt at a cover up of drunken wheeling that ended up in disaster. Going off on Tim, huge lies on alcohol consumption, complete omission of Tim's presence, etc.... all adds up to me. Funny thing is that it would have likely been successfully covered up before she bashed Tim.


And do I have previous issues with this Lorie person... of course. She was one of the five from CI that passed Pete and myself up on New Year's eve. When she showed up at a meeting, the only thing I did was call some friends at CI to see why they sent a spy.... they laughed at that and forewarned me of the history they had with her. I tucked that info away and attempted to give her a clean slate. Until she went off on Tim, I kept my knowledge to myself and let her hang herself. Hoping all the while the "incident" sure to occur didn't cause the club problems. Well... looks like I failed. This discussion shouldn't be occurring... the person attempting to protect the club lost.

Like I said.... sad day.

[h2osensei]

[quote="abendx"]

The whole thing looks to be one person's attempt at a cover up of drunken wheeling. Going off on Tim, huge lies on alcohol consumption, complete omission of Tim's presence, etc.... all adds up to me.[/quote]

Brad, I've tried really hard to stay out of this little bullshit vendetta thing that you have going on. Be careful of the accusations you are making, without having all the facts. The accusations you are making involve me also and you don't really know me or what I'm about. You are basing your conclusions on a single statement about alcohol on the trail. You weren't there, you didn't see shit, so you don't shit about what happened.

If you care to talk about this in more detail, you know exactly where I live. Two streets down from you. Come see me in person, but don't put me on blast in a public forum.

Was there alcohol on the trip, yes. Does that turn it into drunken wheeling, no. Tell me you've never drank booze or gotten high while you've been wheeling? I don't think so. I've seen you pound a shitload of beer at the last IOR meeting and then drive home. Does it make it ok because you're not "wheeling" ???? I don't think so.

You are the one that's always talking about "no rules, no judging people, no stress" but of all the posts I've read on here, yours are always the most instigating and you have no right to judge anybody.

I know you don't like Lorie for whatever reason (none of my business), but I'm amazed at what lengths you will go to in order to humiliate her in public. I don't agree with her post to XRJGUY either and I've already said that to her. Putting anyone on blast on a public forum is just not cool. That's some kindergarden shit.

If you don't want to wheel with me, I'm cool with that. Now leave the girl alone and find somewhere else to release all that anger.

[h2osensei]

[quote="desert dog"]Listen, this club has ex-cops and ex-cons, gays and straights, loyal husbands and outright playerz, church ministers and church haters, rich folks and folks barely scraping by doing whatever they can, conformists and anarchists, and just about every slice of human pie you could imagine. What people do in their personal lives is nobody's business period, especially not mine or this club's. You don't like Lorie, thats cool and you have every right not to. Lots of folks are not very pleased with you either, but are not doing background checks on you and posting it, partly because its none of their business and partly because they really don't care.

If you don't like someone, don't wheel with them. There are folks that don't wheel with me because they think I am too vulgar. Do I give a shit...ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE BIT! And if they needed my help, Id be there for them in a heartbeat.

I love wheeling with you B-rad. I also thought that Lorenzo and Lorie were pretty cool when I met them. I don't really care what they do in there personal life - if I judged folks like that I would have no friends or family.[/quote]


I LUV YOU MAN

[abendx]

[quote="h2osensei"]I've seen you pound a shitload of beer at the last IOR meeting and then drive home. Does it make it ok because you're not "wheeling" ???? I don't think so.[/quote]

Ha. How many?

I am not much of a drinker... so you got your facts mixed up. Pounding more than two/three is a likely going to induce sleep and little else. Good try.

You're situation in this sucks... from every prospective. I didnt cause it and have only continually gone out of my way the entire time to help you in any way I could.

Attempting to throw me under the bus for Lorie and her actions? Wow, just wow.

[h2osensei]

Dude. You're the only one here trying to throw anyone under the bus.

Remember, this was MY accident. You're using it as a tool to get to Lori and you're not even stopping to think who else you're getting involved.

The original post was about the rollover, pictures, the awesome recovery and giving props to the ICE Team and you turned into a discusting display of Internet bullying.

I appreciate your help and everyone else's, but dude... this is really ridiculous.

You're accusing me in public of drunk driving and making up conspiracy theories at my expense.

Not cool, no matter how you look at it.

[abendx]

I do not believe I brought up booze, nor did I make any reference to *your* drinking habits.... hell, if I hadn't bought you a beer when we met, I'd not know you drank at all.

I am done here.... have fun.

[VICTORG93307]

Brad I still.love you. But let it go. I'll send some daelian delight along with trevor to make him do your bidding. Can't we all just get along ?

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[Bert338]

Ok Guys I'm locking this thread down and any along this same topic will be deleted.

In the future if you have issues with someone talk to them in person or PM them. KEEP IT OFF THE BOARD!