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I attended the new Advanced close-range class put together by Gunfighting Inc and Suarez International.

This was for advanced students and was pretty exhausting for a 16 hour class. Lots of grappling, transitions to back-up weapons, off-hand and empty hand, rolling in the dirt, working around barriers, and drawing/fighting while injured. I shot over 800 rounds. It was all live fire from concealment while moving and much of it was on a 360* scenario, so class size must remain small and limited. Everyone was pretty bruised and cut up by the end of the first day. I like instructors that push me to the limits, and Suarez International classes never disappoint.

A couple vids put together by the instructor;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEDLEAuz ... MdhySAmjBf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csuWanlC ... obOQGU3YzS


He has mad vid skillz

That is awesome. I would love to take that class. Where was it located?

And how much?

Ive been through some pretty tough training, got some skills you wouldnt believe, if you want me to show you, it will be free, just remember, once i show you, i will have to kill you....lol

You have to have a minimum of intermediate level certificates from nationally recognized school to join this class. Because of the level of danger involved (360* shooting, point shooting from concealment, shooting at contact distance, making contact with classmates in position SUL with a hot chamber, etc.), the instructor doesn't have time to teach folks the fundamentals, so doesn't take the chance. If you take their basic pistol class and one of their intermediate classes like "close-range gunfighting", then that opens the door to whatever else you want to do. Same with rifle training. We also have a so-cal group of students that gets together in Santa Clarita to do force on force and other training once in a while and we all chip in $75 to rent a range and get an instructor to work with us in an informal setting. We even did a couple of training sessions at the Gracie Academy with grappling vs gun/knife retention.

There are many other classes offered by the same company for people of all levels. My wife has been through a few of them, both pistol and rifle, and did very well. My teenagers are going to start doing classes soon too; I already have them squared away on the basics (safety, marksmanship, presentation, clearance drills, etc.) but I don't have the patience to be a great teacher.

What I like about Suarez Int training is that unlike past schools I have trained with, SI focuses on civilian oriented training with no limits, rather than the restrictive and generic military and police style training that other schools incorporate.

I'm going to Arizona this summer to do another phase of the sniper course I have been taking. I'm using my .338 Lapua mag and got hits out to 1400 yards last year. I have upgraded optics and loads and hope to hit at close to a mile this year.

Ill post on hear before I sign up for anything to see if anyone wants to ride down with me. I go at least once every few months.

that is cool DD... BTW did I see you in those movies a couple of times???

[quote="t_long927"]that is cool DD... BTW did I see you in those movies a couple of times???[/quote]
I have the green shirt and pants in one vid and a black long sleeve in the other vid.

Did you get your gun yet?

[quote="desert dog"][quote="t_long927"]that is cool DD... BTW did I see you in those movies a couple of times???[/quote]
I have the green shirt and pants in one vid and a black long sleeve in the other vid.

Did you get your gun yet?[/quote]

Yeah I bought the ruger a fee weeks ago.... I wish you would have let me know u were selling your 27 earlier... have any other guns for sale?

[color=#00BF40]Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight


1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell "Fire!" Why "Fire"? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause then to lose concentration and will.... and who is going to summon help if you yell "Intruder," "Glock" or "Winchester?"

9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11. Stretch the rules. Always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy."

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)

19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.

22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.

23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4".

25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.

26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.

27. Regardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.

28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney."

Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat.

1. Never be unarmed.
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