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Postby TheHollands » August 19th, 2010, 10:09 am

ok so with the great time my wife had offroad the other night ive been give the :Thumb: to lift the jeep (not that she cared anyways)

these are my thoughts on lift/tires/wheels/bumpers/wench. it would do it in that order. please im looking for any and all advise on everything so please let me know if i should be doing something different.

http://full-traction.com/detail.php?MOD ... 424&NOTES=
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRR-3975150/?rtype=10
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ICT-ROK-20/
http://www.4wheelparts.com/prodDetail.a ... S%2fB76805
http://www.4wheelparts.com/prodDetail.a ... lID=101084
http://www.4wheelparts.com/prodDetail.a ... S%2fB98281
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby casaintsfan » August 19th, 2010, 4:16 pm

Tires, you do realize that those are bias & not radials right?
Wheels, not all 15" wheels clear the calipers, you may have to grind them down a little bit. 4" back spacing & 10" wide, they will stick out quite a bit. I run 15x8 pro comps w/ 3 3/4" back spacing. The 8" wheel will hold the bead better than the 10" will. Does summit charge shipping? U can get the pro comps at 4 wheel parts and pay no shipping.
Have you checked with Richard @ G&G, he can get the same products as 4 wheel parts.
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby REDxj5150 » August 19th, 2010, 4:35 pm

I too would run 15x8s with 37 inch tires. Cragar's will clear jk calipers. Those are radials Larry. You're bumper choices looks like it will give you a good approach and drop angles front and rear, and of course the XRC winch is getting better all the time. It does help a lot that it's the cheapest one on the market. It will pull you out of whatever you manage to get yourself into.

Back to tires. If I had a JK I would put a 15" wheel on it too... The more sidewall the better, and steel wheels always look sharp on jeeps. I think Larry just doesn't want you to copy him on the round holes. I do like those cragar V-5s. I've never seen them on a jeep either.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRR-3655850/

I don't know much on the lifts of JK's, but Full traction makes some decent XJ stuff. Beware of the driveline thing though. I know the page says no driveline mods necessary, but I recall that John had a lot of problems with his.
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby VICTORG93307 » August 19th, 2010, 4:55 pm

I did talk to a Chrysler service rep before i got my 16" wheels, they said they would not cover and damage to pretty much any brake component if they see a 15" wheel on a JK :dontknow: :dontknow: . She stated that 15" wheels tend to cause the brakes to overheat and cause premature failure, and we all know anything premature is not good :thefinger: . Not sure how much of that was true or not but i said the hell with it and paid the extra for the 16" wheel, and extra for the 16" tire. Altogether I ended up spending about 300 more for 1" more inch of rim and 1" less of tire wall :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: . Hopefully this info helps you.

I have that same winch, and had it for about 3 years, I had two small issues both my fault, the first is the connector to the remote is very easy to get it in backwards, the other was me not paying attention and letting the cable bunch up on one side too much and it bent the rods going across the drum. Went in to 4 wheel parts explained what happened and and Alex said just bring us the old one we will swap it out. No questions asked just replaced it. Great warranty.
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby Desert Dog » August 19th, 2010, 5:30 pm

Most 15" steelies fit the JK, most 15" alloys do not. Larry is right about the 8" rims. They really help keep the bead on without beadlocks. I always run 8-12# on the trail and have never lost a bead (although I have blurped some air).

With that lift, if you wheel it hard, plan on spending $1000 on drive shafts in your future (I lost both of mine with 3").

I have those exact same tires. They were designed for off-road use and work excellent for that purpose. But, if you plan to use your Jeep as a daily driver, consider the following warnings:
1) They are loud, and get much louder as they wear.
2) They do not balance well (if at all).
3) They are very soft and wear out fast at about 20,000 miles. This is half the life of many other tires. So the Iroks may sound cheap, but if you plan on putting a lot of street miles on this jeep, your spending double what you would spend on KM2s, Toyos, or MTRs in the long run.

When I first got my jeep, it was my wifes, so I decked it out in ShittyBuilt bumpers and rockers. By the time it became my jeep;
1) The XRC rear bumper kept opening up on its own on the road. Smitty would send me new parts and it would keep happening. I finally got my money back when I complained about how dangerous it was.
2) My smitty built rockers lasted for 2 trips to calico and 1 trip on freeway ridge before they bent up into the body.
3) My SRC front bumper lasted about a year before the sides bent back (I just sawzalled them off) and it cracked in two places. when I installed it, I had to drill alot of my own holes because nothing lined up. Oh, and good luck tightening up the winch bolts properly - I had to mod it to get that done.

Also consider that everyone in this club that has bought a Smitty winch has had problems. Sure smitty replaces sh!t when it breaks or doesn't work, but at what point do you get sick of messing with this Chinese crap?

And the biggest point, is those 37s. When I went to 33s, I noticed no difference in power or drivability. When I went to 35s - Re-geared and bought a superchips. When I went to 37s - well now I'm looking at a supercharger :lol3: . 5.13 gears and a programmer are going to be MANDATORY to run those 37s - and you will still be underpowered. And, the programmer will correct your speedometer (which will be 20MPH off) and fix your shift points.

37s are also hard on your axles, especially the front one (which has the same tubes and knuckles as a D30), So you should sleeve and gusset the axle too. And change to Chromoly axle shafts with full circle clip u-joints while you are re-gearing. You should also beef up your steering to handle the additional stress.

As you can see, 37s have some very expensive and involved issues that need to be dealt with before the damage occurs.

Good luck with your build. :drinks:
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby castor07jk » August 19th, 2010, 8:44 pm

You'll be happy with that kit. Not only is it Made In The USA it's made right here in Bako.

2dr-4dr: front dive line are the same and can be used up to 3 1/2 in. the boot will get cut on the autos.
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The 15in. Craiger Soft 8s rub from what i have read. The 15in. Rock Crawlers clear :Thumb:

Iterco tires are not known for tread life.

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Re: time to start planing!

Postby TheHollands » August 20th, 2010, 7:25 am

Thanks for all the advise you guys.

I think i know where i need to go from here. like 35" tires lol and 8" wide rim.

i plan on replacing the drive shafts as needed.
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby Desert Dog » August 20th, 2010, 9:52 am

[quote="TheHollands"]Thanks for all the advise you guys.

I think i know where i need to go from here. like 35" tires lol and 8" wide rim.

i plan on replacing the drive shafts as needed.[/quote]

Thats a good combo for your JK. :Thumb:

I would upgrade to 37s later when you can afford to strengthen things up and regear. And you can keep the same lift if your still happy with it and do a fender trim (or tube fenders :yup: ).
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Re: time to start planing!

Postby TheHollands » August 20th, 2010, 12:22 pm

I think i will be trimming my own fenders next weekend. nice cheap little mod :)

[quote="desert dog"][quote="TheHollands"]Thanks for all the advise you guys.

I think i know where i need to go from here. like 35" tires lol and 8" wide rim.

i plan on replacing the drive shafts as needed.[/quote]

Thats a good combo for your JK. :Thumb:

I would upgrade to 37s later when you can afford to strengthen things up and regear. And you can keep the same lift if your still happy with it and do a fender trim (or tube fenders :yup: ).[/quote]
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