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Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 10th, 2011, 6:19 am
by abendx
The last time I was wheeling, someone needed the strap. When he pulled his out, it had hooks on the ends, then I noticed zero recovery points on the vehicle.

Both are major fails. But why?

The lack of recovery points, is not only a major pain in the ass, it is a major safety issue, for both you, the vehicles, and then, the recovery equipment is often, next to worthless after the recovery. What often happens when rigging to a non recovery point is that you tend rip shit apart. Bumpers go flying, axles get ripped out of their mounts, straps get torn, etc... Then people get in the way of these flying objects.... you get the idea. Remember, the strap holds a lot of kinetic energy.... and can launch very heavy objects like a wrist rocket does to a small rock! Then... this leads perfectly into the second fail... hooks on a snatch strap. Because the strap holds a lot of energy, you don't want one of those hooks to fail and create a missile with the remainder of the hook. Think about it.

So... we pulled my strap, hooked him up, and yanked him out.

Okay.... so what's the lesson here?

1. Always carry *your own* snatch strap (one without hooks, just the looped ends).
2. Carry at least two serviceable and correctly rated shackles/d-rings for the rigging).
2. Always have real recovery points, front and rear.
3. Hook up your own side, then inspect the other side. Make sure you believe it is safe and will not damage either vehicle.
4. Turn down your music and pay attention during all aspects of the recovery.... both the recover-er and recover-ee.

Okay... done bitching, go back to your regularly scheduled events! :beermug:

Re: Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 10th, 2011, 7:08 am
by chuckanut105
Wasn't this already brought up???? :thinking:
[url]http://www.infectiousoffroad.com/PHPBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1538[/url]

Re: Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 10th, 2011, 7:29 am
by Desert Dog
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Yep, this was one of my main points in the newbies guide to wheeling that I posted.

I have seen bumpers and front axles ripped right out of Cherokees that had no recovery points (the one at the red-neck jam was classic).

Straps with hook ends are the most dangerous thing ever invented. Here is a classic example of what straps with metal ends can do (notice it went through the whole Jeep - even the SEAT!!);

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Re: Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 10th, 2011, 8:35 am
by abendx
I knew this info was likely posted, but felt it needed a highlight for the new guys.

As DD showed in the pic he posted, it is a [b]MAJOR [/b]safety issue.

Re: Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 11th, 2011, 6:58 am
by Josh JP
what really happen is brad snapped my strap back when i had the hummer. he thought his cute jeep could climb the same obstacle i did in reverse with the H3 on accident. when he got stuck i didn't notice any recovery points on his rig and i didn't want to scratch any of the chrome on the hummer so i wrapped the other side of the strap around my arm and pulled him out myself. we found out his bumper was actually on his jeep with zip ties and what seemed to be bubble gum and a piece of it flew and hit one of my 26's so i got all pissed off at him and asked if he would come on here and type what he learned from all this.

:thefinger:

Re: Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 11th, 2011, 8:30 am
by chuckanut105
[quote="Josh JP"]what really happen is brad snapped my strap back when i had the hummer. he thought his cute jeep could climb the same obstacle i did in reverse with the H3 on accident. when he got stuck i didn't notice any recovery points on his rig and i didn't want to scratch any of the chrome on the hummer so i wrapped the other side of the strap around my arm and pulled him out myself. we found out his bumper was actually on his jeep with zip ties and what seemed to be bubble gum and a piece of it flew and hit one of my 26's so i got all pissed off at him and asked if he would come on here and type what he learned from all this.

:thefinger:[/quote]

FAIL

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PostPosted: August 11th, 2011, 9:49 pm
by abendx
[quote="Josh JP"]what really happen is brad snapped my strap back when i had the hummer. he thought his cute jeep could climb the same obstacle i did in reverse with the H3 on accident. when he got stuck i didn't notice any recovery points on his rig and i didn't want to scratch any of the chrome on the hummer so i wrapped the other side of the strap around my arm and pulled him out myself. we found out his bumper was actually on his jeep with zip ties and what seemed to be bubble gum and a piece of it flew and hit one of my 26's so i got all pissed off at him and asked if he would come on here and type what he learned from all this.

:thefinger:[/quote]

Miss you Joshy.

Re: Recoveries. IMPORTANT READ.

PostPosted: August 12th, 2011, 7:45 pm
by Josh JP
not as much as i miss you