Name that tune- drivetrain noise

[EJ21]

Jeep recently started making a noise like a baseball card in spoke tires on a bicycle. I first thought it was u-joint going bad but when i crawled under everything seemed tight and i greased them with no change. Sound is only present when there is a load on the drivelines. If i let off gas or put in clutch it seems to go away. I noticed this weekend that it doesn't make the noise at all in 4th gear. 1-3 building noise, nothing in 4th, then sounds like crap again in 5th. Any thoughts/ideas much appreciated.

89 yj, 4 banger with manual 5spd

[Zak.Taylor]

I'd have to hear it personally, but sounds like transmission or t-case. Does it change if you shift into 4x4?

[TheBigDogg]

[quote="EJ21"]Jeep recently started making a noise like a baseball card in spoke tires on a bicycle. I first thought it was u-joint going bad but when i crawled under everything seemed tight and i greased them with no change. Sound is only present when there is a load on the drivelines. If i let off gas or put in clutch it seems to go away. I noticed this weekend that it doesn't make the noise at all in 4th gear. 1-3 building noise, nothing in 4th, then sounds like crap again in 5th. Any thoughts/ideas much appreciated.

89 yj, 4 banger with manual 5spd[/quote]
Transmission!!
No sound in 4th because it is 1-1 ratio and everything is in synk(Richard taught me that)

TheBigDogg

[EJ21]

Thanks guys. kinda what i thought but I don't know crap about trannies... Err, Transmissions either. Guess will find a shop.

[Zak.Taylor]

EJ, let's diagnose it for sure first, then find a used ax-15 or Cherokee auto to replace it. It's an easy swap u can do in a driveway in a few hours.

[EJ21]

Cherokee auto? Hmmm. was. going by ur place this week anyways. let me know when's a good time.

[chrisrigby]

or just spilt the gearbox and re bearing it.

[EJ21]

With something like this?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 0375713889

[Zak.Taylor]

Oh, I haven't done a Cherokee auto yet, but matt (whitesnake) has

[Beck*A*Poo]

if your gonna do Cherokee swap then there's a few mods and may take up to a whole day to get in

[Lake_v2]

Hey u can bring it by tonight or anytime after 5pm I can tell u whats wrong with it.....

[EJ21]

Thanks!

[Zak.Taylor]

EJ, go by Matt's. (Lake v2) if you haven't already. He is more knowledgeable than I am and can help you decide on the route to go with the trans. For the cost of a rebuild kit, you can get an AX-15 that somebody has removed and put it in. The 15 is stronger than the 5 and will probably outlast your Jeep

[EJ21]

Will be going by there this evening!

[EJ21]

Well tranny it is... Huge thanks to Matt for taking a look at it. Nice to put faces to usernames. Haha.

Will be looking for an AX5 if anyone has one laying around.

[EJ21]

Jeep is in shop getting trans rebuilt, new clutch and diff covers. Can't wait to get it back.

[Zak.Taylor]

Sweet. It'll be on the trail in no time

[EJ21]

Bad bearings and a broken gear.

[chuckanut105]

That's normal wear and tear. Now when you trans mechanic says "I've been rebuilding trannys for 35 years and have never seen anyone break this part." That's when you know you've gone above and beyond the bounds of your transmission.

[EJ21]

[quote="chuckanut105"]That's normal wear and tear. Now when you trans mechanic says "I've been rebuilding trannys for 35 years and have never seen anyone break this part." That's when you know you've gone above and beyond the bounds of your transmission.[/quote]

haha. Yeah, guess could have been worse. Still costing as much as new trans almost though. Wish could have found a used one.

[chuckanut105]

how much did they rape you for?

[EJ21]

$1200 out the door. $800 towards trans.

[chuckanut105]

That's really not bad my dodge costs about $1800 twice now. Never buying a dodge pick up with an auto ever again.

[EJ21]

Not bad, but just got better! $950 out the door for everything. Will be nice to get it back and everything underneath being freshly rebuilt. Motor was already done.

I have had that same issue with Dodge before. trans and rear end always gave me problems.

[EJ21]

I get the jeep back tomorrow but now having title issues and the guy I bought it from has disappeared. Three months later i finally made it to the DMV due to crazy schedule with wedding amd buying new house all same time.