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Re: COMS

Postby Lake_v2 » December 9th, 2013, 7:56 pm

Ok im still a tiny bit retarded, found the antenna brad mentioned, but my googlefu sucks, is there any issues mounting to alumonum roof vs steel?
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 9th, 2013, 8:00 pm

You should be fine.
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 11th, 2013, 7:10 am

not hand held[/quote]

Handheld can be done for cheap.... less than 50 I think. A mobile is a better option since you'll get to use a much better antenna... the power is also greater, but in our application, not as important as a good antenna with a good ground plane. A mobile is also easier to use.

A little more cash would get you a dual band radio.... not something you need, but the nice thing is you'll get to talk to those FRS/GMRS radios if you like.

We can get you going for under 200. Is that in your budget? That would get you a Yaesu (1900 or 2900) or Kenwood (281) radio, antenna, and cable (similar to what I pointed Matt at). Install will only take a couple of hours (routing cable cleanly). If it's too much, I can look at other options for you.

If I can't find something in your price range, you could always do a handheld and run it to a mobile antenna and run a hand mic. I'm guessing you'll be in for just around a hundred on that.

Also... getting a ham license isn't too hard (well... if you aren't like someone I know that went to take without studying at all, you should be good). It's not exactly necessary for our application, but good to have.[/quote]


guess you missed that part about "not hand held"

yea,, $200 is about max for me, but i could do that when i recycle my beer cans :mrgreen:

frs/gmrs :dontknow:
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 11th, 2013, 7:28 am

[quote="Uncle Cracker"]not hand held[/quote]

You know, sometimes the .99 store is just too rich for some people's blood, so I was just making sure you knew there was a .98 store.

I wonder if there are any Obama-phone subsidies that we could apply towards your VHF rig? :dig:


FRS/GMRS are those little walkie-talkies you can get at Walmart (not sure the .99 store carries these).
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 12th, 2013, 8:42 am

i'm ready to buy.

i was looking at hundreds of them on e-bay,
just don't want to buy the wrong shit :dontknow:

did you say, "you gotta connection"?
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Re: COMS

Postby Lake_v2 » December 12th, 2013, 9:16 am

Roger, i got the kenwood t281 for 135 shipped new, ill find the link for you
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 16th, 2013, 10:51 am

done deal :wings:

should be here today if tracking is accurate :Thumb:

been studying for my test since i made the purchase :drinks:

got the same radio as matt, and the cable & antenna brad suggested
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 16th, 2013, 10:54 am

Nice.congrats.
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 17th, 2013, 9:11 am

i've taken 3 sample tests (pass)

now,,, i assume there is a location in bakes to take the actual test.

DD, where did you take your test? i don't believe matt has done his yet
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Re: COMS

Postby Repsolaaron » December 17th, 2013, 9:21 am

What antenna did you get. Matt still needs to get his.

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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 17th, 2013, 10:13 am

Larsen black teflon coated 49" whip: part no. w-490B (spare whip)
Larson 2M 5/8 blk whip/coil/nmo-k pkg: part no. nmo-150BK (cable&antenna)

from HRO inc.
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 17th, 2013, 10:38 am

[quote="Uncle Cracker"]Larsen black teflon coated 49" whip: part no. w-490B (spare whip)
Larson 2M 5/8 blk whip/coil/nmo-k pkg: part no. nmo-150BK (cable&antenna)

from HRO inc.[/quote]

Good deal!! Can't wait to be able to talk.



I'd suggest for others to get the NMOKHFCXTH vs the mount in this kit. This kit contains the regular version of the mount which is fine for a sheet metal roof (~20g on most vehicles), but if you want to attach it to anything much thicker than about 16g, good luck. This one I referenced will just give you more options, out to 1/2" thick.
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 19th, 2013, 11:38 am

[quote="abendx"][quote="Uncle Cracker"]Larsen black teflon coated 49" whip: part no. w-490B (spare whip)
Larson 2M 5/8 blk whip/coil/nmo-k pkg: part no. nmo-150BK (cable&antenna)

from HRO inc.[/quote]

Good deal!! Can't wait to be able to talk.



I'd suggest for others to get the NMOKHFCXTH vs the mount in this kit. This kit contains the regular version of the mount which is fine for a sheet metal roof (~20g on most vehicles), but if you want to attach it to anything much thicker than about 16g, good luck. This one I referenced will just give you more options, out to 1/2" thick.[/quote]

i also picked up the national repeater guide :Thumb:
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Re: COMS

Postby Lake_v2 » December 19th, 2013, 8:55 pm

:wings: ordered antenna and cable today, so ya right about 200 altogether and from seeing these on trails lightyears ahead of cb and antenna.

Plus i never could get a cb to talk right even 20 ft from another rig.
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 23rd, 2013, 7:17 am

Plus i never could get a cb to talk right even 20 ft from another rig.[/quote]

he ain't lying :lol2:
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 23rd, 2013, 8:05 am

Hope we can get even more interested in this.... Aaron has one of those chi-com handhelds and it works great. I think he had it delivered for less than 50 bucks.


These are pretty easy to hook up, but if you guys want to have a install party, we can certainly put something together. I know we have a super expert out here... whom I still need to have over for a few beers! STEVEN.... let's shoot for something after the holiday.
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Re: COMS

Postby Lake_v2 » December 23rd, 2013, 8:26 am

:thinking:

so i bought an antenna and cable... why the heck didnt the cable come with an end? and why doesnt radio shack carry that end?
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 23rd, 2013, 3:08 pm

[quote="Lake_v2"]:thinking:

so i bought an antenna and cable... why the heck didnt the cable come with an end? and why doesnt radio shack carry that end?[/quote]


Thy usually do and leave them off so you can trim and route. Universal Radio or HRO will have what you need.
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 26th, 2013, 6:54 am

:thinking: my cable came with the end (separate in the package):dontknow:
search the packing again.

my question is: don't you need special crimpers for that end?
my other question is: my ham & cb are both mounted in my truggy,
should the antennas be a certain distance apart? :dontknow:
my other, other question is: :roll: after everything is said and done,
do i need to go see desert dog for tuning on both radios?
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Re: COMS

Postby abendx » December 26th, 2013, 8:26 am

[quote="Uncle Cracker"]:thinking: my cable came with the end (separate in the package):dontknow:
search the packing again.

my question is: don't you need special crimpers for that end?
my other question is: my ham & cb are both mounted in my truggy,
should the antennas be a certain distance apart? :dontknow:
my other, other question is: :roll: after everything is said and done,
do i need to go see desert dog for tuning on both radios?[/quote]


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Looks like a good tutorial.... I just skipped through it though.

Get them as far away from one another as you can.... at least 12"

SWR tuning is nice, but not necessary on the VHF. If Chris has a meter, by all means do it if he will give you some time.
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Re: COMS

Postby sandbuggy » December 26th, 2013, 5:17 pm

The key is a good grounding plain on vhf .. If you don't, you'll have power feed back to the radio ..
My neighbor has checked mine .. Need a better grounding plain .. But it works better than the cb already
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 27th, 2013, 7:18 am

[quote="sandbuggy"]The key is a good grounding plain on vhf .. If you don't, you'll have power feed back to the radio ..
My neighbor has checked mine .. Need a better grounding plain .. But it works better than the cb already[/quote]


what's the difference in a good ground & a "good grounding plain"? :thinking:
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Re: COMS

Postby Desert Dog » December 27th, 2013, 8:14 am

You are lucky with your Juggy Roger. You have a metal cab with a metal roof = better ground plane than any Jeep Wrangler will ever have. Mount the antenna right in the middle of your roof. Jeeps and some tube buggies have the biggest problem with this.
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Re: COMS

Postby Uncle Cracker » December 27th, 2013, 1:17 pm

WTF? JUGGY? :thefinger:

the center of my roof is very do-able (dead center of my infectious sticker) :Thumb: but i'll have to move my cb antenna to new location.


:idea: maybe to the very back, then i'll stick a [color=#00FF00]flag[/color] on it for UTAH
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Re: COMS

Postby Jimmiej450 » December 30th, 2013, 12:51 pm

[quote="Uncle Cracker"]i've taken 3 sample tests (pass)

now,,, i assume there is a location in bakes to take the actual test.

DD, where did you take your test? i don't believe matt has done his yet[/quote]

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