Ridgecrest 2/22/14

[Desert Dog]

[quote="JeremyRowell"]DD, do you mind if I use this pic on My FB page?[/quote]
By all means Jeremy, get this pic out all over the web and make Bill famous. It would make a great "caption this"

[Brute290]

Hey WTF, Like the girl said " I'm the one with my legs in the air , somebody better pay the fuck up" LMAO,,,

[Goatman]

I'm glad you all had a good time. I will ask that in the future you don't make bypasses. I see that the upper waterfall was bypassed. This is a special place, and one of the cool things is that the trails are narrow and you mostly must run the lines that are there. If bypasses are burned in it will permanently change the trails. We all have winches, if you can't make an obstacle then winch over it, please don't break in a bypass route. I'm not talking about playing on new lines, just making an easy bypass to an existing obstacle.

I know this is a public open area, and you can do anything you want, and I have no right to really ask this. However, I'm simply asking to adhere to an etiquette that will insure the best long term experience for us all. As more people find the area who knows what will happen, but we can at least be careful what we do.

I don't have any races for awhile and no trips planned, so when are we going again?

[JeremyRowell]

[quote="Goatman"]I'm glad you all had a good time. I will ask that in the future you don't make bypasses. [/quote]

HAHA !!! This came up more than once on this trip. I recall when we were all out walking the next obstacle Robert would say "don't go there, Richard will yell at you." Robert kept everyone on their best behavior and on the trail... Not sure what happened at the end... My ride was Broke and on the trailer headed home by that time!

[Desert Dog]

[quote="Goatman"]I know this is a public open area, and you can do anything you want[/quote]


I understand what you are saying Richard, but you guys left the trails to make these trails. All of the trails out there were previously untouched land before you saw something cool on the side of the road and decided to try it. Saying that nobody can try new obstacles except your group in an Open area where it is perfectly legal to do so doesn't make sense to me. Why is it OK for URF to run wherever they want, but not for anybody else? Who cares if there is a bypass to the waterfall, don't take it if you don't like it. The waterfall didn't go anywhere, its still there for you to run.

I completely understand the need to stay on the designated trails in places like the Rubicon and Freeway Ridge, But we are talking about a totally open area here. I also understand the desire to keep the Ridgecrest trail locations secret, and everyone in Infectious has gone out of their way to keep directions / coordinates off of the internet so the place doesn't get ruined by the flat-billers, litterbugs, and enviro-nazis. All of us promised not to publish the trail locations and we have held to our word. But saying that we can only stay on the trails and obstacles that URF wants us on makes no sense to me.

Bill and I didn't even roll on the trail, we rolled while trying side obstacles that were harder than the ones on the trail. Bills "bypass" straight up the hillside to the left of the waterfall is WAY scarier than the waterfall

[Desert Dog]

[quote="JeremyRowell"] Robert would say "don't go there, Richard will yell at you." Robert kept everyone on their best behavior and on the trail...[/quote]
then took the same bypass

[sandbuggy]

Nope .. I did do the left side of the waterfall .. Bill didn't make it up the left side of the water fall after I did .. He winch off of my rig ...

But the funny thing was Bill thinking that he's transmission was broke after flopping ... Transfer case was just neutral

[sandbuggy]

It's still a long way from every Tom ,Dick and Harry getting in there and out .. Lol

[TheBigDogg]

[quote="sandbuggy"]It's still a long way from every Tom ,Dick and Harry getting in there and out .. Lol[/quote]
some one say my name?

[sandbuggy]

I thought you would see that..

[Goatman]

[quote="Desert Dog"][quote="Goatman"]I know this is a public open area, and you can do anything you want[/quote]


I understand what you are saying Richard, but you guys left the trails to make these trails. All of the trails out there were previously untouched land before you saw something cool on the side of the road and decided to try it. Saying that nobody can try new obstacles except your group in an Open area where it is perfectly legal to do so doesn't make sense to me. Why is it OK for URF to run wherever they want, but not for anybody else? Who cares if there is a bypass to the waterfall, don't take it if you don't like it. The waterfall didn't go anywhere, its still there for you to run.

I completely understand the need to stay on the designated trails in places like the Rubicon and Freeway Ridge, But we are talking about a totally open area here. I also understand the desire to keep the Ridgecrest trail locations secret, and everyone in Infectious has gone out of their way to keep directions / coordinates off of the internet so the place doesn't get ruined by the flat-billers, litterbugs, and enviro-nazis. All of us promised not to publish the trail locations and we have held to our word. But saying that we can only stay on the trails and obstacles that URF wants us on makes no sense to me.

Bill and I didn't even roll on the trail, we rolled while trying side obstacles that were harder than the ones on the trail. Bills "bypass" straight up the hillside to the left of the waterfall is WAY scarier than the waterfall [/quote]

Chris, we didn't "leave" any trails to make these trails......there were no trails. We simply drove up the various canyons. We've tried to stay in the bottoms of the canyons and drive over whatever is there. It's not a matter of only running what the URF guys want you to run, it's a matter of trying to keep the integrity of the trails and hard obstacles. We've seen evidence of tracks around obstacles and off to the side of the bottoms of the canyons, I'd just like to see that minimized. Eventually a bypass ends up looking like the main trail and people who don't know won't even run the obstacle or the bottom of the canyon and the trail gets permanently dumbed down. I'm already seeing that at the bottom of URF and it's a shame. I tried to clarify that I'm not talking about trying new lines or obstacles on the sides of the canyons, just making bypasses to good obstacles. I really hesitate to say anything at all, and have no desire to offend or be judgemental. Hell, go out there and find a brand new canyon to run and open it up, who cares. I just hope we can have a certain amount of respect for the trails and good obstacles and winch over them if we can't make them and not open up an easier way around. It's not all that different from back when we all had smaller tires and the trails would get stacked in. While we would throw the occasional rock like anyone else, we tried hard to just winch if we couldn't make something and not stack the hell out of it. Like I said before, you all can do whatever you want, I'm just bringing it up.

[Desert Dog]

[quote="sandbuggy"] Bill thinking that he's transmission was broke after flopping ... Transfer case was just neutral[/quote]
Thank god you brought that up. We were ready to start digging into the trans

[Uncle Cracker]

I don't have any races for awhile and no trips planned, so when are we going again? [/quote]

[color=#800000]OH PLEASE don't go[/color] until after the panamint the run..

i wanna go back,, and go to more trails. that place is the shit